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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 1, 2011 19:04:43 GMT -5
So, would the Reaper Death Seal, the one the Fourth Hokage used to seal the 9 tailed fox, work if used on Madera Uchiha
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Post by acdckid101 on Aug 1, 2011 19:24:07 GMT -5
it depends on when its used on madara. the reaper death seal has a limit on chakara it can seal into any object. naruto actually only has half of the chakara within him( wow only half?) minato had the other half before he died. as it stands it would probally hurt him but would it really kill him? the answer to that lies when more of madara is discovered. at least thats what i think.
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 1, 2011 20:15:00 GMT -5
that makes sense, but i think it works differently between people and tailed beasts, it would depend on how much chakra madera has and how it works on ppl
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Post by acdckid101 on Aug 1, 2011 20:22:15 GMT -5
well madara gets the ten tailed that could be a problem. and good point nine tales is all chakara which probally makes a difference
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 4, 2011 1:09:05 GMT -5
How close do people think a fight between the Six Paths of Pain and Madera would have been? Remember, when Naruto fought Pain was right after Pain spent a TON of chakra destroying the Hidden Leaf, plus he had to use the unleashed Nine-Tails, with its nearly limitless charka, to deal the final blow, and that Nagato does not need to be very near the battle field.
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Post by Valdyr on Aug 4, 2011 1:20:14 GMT -5
I don't think so, since Madara knows all about Pain's powers and how they work - it was part of the reason you were allowed to be on the same side as Madara, he demands to know *exactly* how all of your abilities work. I can prove that but it'd spoil stuff for you xD
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 4, 2011 1:46:07 GMT -5
I understand that he knows Pains abilities, it does not negate the fact that Pain, able to operate six bodies independently of his own, with 360 degree Rinnegan sight, has a large advantage in that department. The Six Paths can have almost a dozen summoned animals, Nagato Pain can completely manipulate Madera while he exisists in real time, which he needs to do in order to attack, and he can't sneak up on any of them, they have weapons and tai Jutsu of the best quality and can regenerate any fallen member. The reason Naruto was able to do what he did was because 5 Pains were just returning after Nagato's Almighty Push destroyed the village. if he had all his chakra and bodies, and only had to focus on Naruto, I'm sure it would have been a different story, and I think it would be extremely formidable, even for Madera. For example, that ten minute paper bomb waterfall, doesnt cover as long or as thoroughly as the Six Pain's could actually cover Madera. One could wait over his phased body and the second it returns, it would suck out his soul, learn all his secrets, and kill him instantly (one of the abilities of Pain) whilst Nagato waits and watches, and if madera teleports anywhere, he can grab or throw in with Almighty push/pull. Im just saying, his teleport and ability to "exit reality" are not as overwhelming when all Six Paths work as a team because they can see everywhere and cover him the whole time and in every direction he might travel.
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 4, 2011 1:50:29 GMT -5
plus one of the pains can absorb any and all Ninjutsu as well as consume an opponents Chakra with a touch, which would limit Madera's offensive capability and provides supurb defence, especially for the Pain which regenerates its comrades
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Post by Valdyr on Aug 4, 2011 1:55:06 GMT -5
Madara would just teleport to Nagato's body and kill him.
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 4, 2011 2:01:01 GMT -5
assuming he knows where nagato is, again, one of nagato's strengths is that he does not need to be close to the battle, he can hide away and be pretty damn hard to find, and that is without remembering that Madera has the Six to deal with. Sure he could always teleport away first and avoid the whole thing, but thats no fun ot discuss XD so lets assume he wants to leave this battle with either him or Nagato the definate winners
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Post by Valdyr on Aug 4, 2011 2:22:40 GMT -5
He'd know where Nagato was xD Nagato Can't move easily, since he's gotta use that huge tower thingy x3 But honestly, I think Madara is skilled enough to be able to beat the crap outta Pain. Yes, Naruto would be able to beat him, but Naruto still isn't anywhere near strong enough to even touch Madara.
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Post by ulrik177 on Aug 4, 2011 2:29:13 GMT -5
assuming he'd know where nagato is, is no fun at all, so lets leave that out of it. as to Madera's abilities to teleport and exit reality, I think that Pain has vaible ways of defeating those skills. I'd like you see someone address my strategy to help decide if its viable, and then any extra skills Madera possesses that he has at the time lets say just before Pain attacks the village that might change things (excluding any super big spoilers!!!!!!)
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Post by Valdyr on Aug 4, 2011 2:40:50 GMT -5
hmmmm... i'll have to spend some time thinking about it, i'll get back to ya. (Will, check out my post in the gaming board about Hearts of Iron II)
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Post by acdckid101 on Aug 4, 2011 8:35:08 GMT -5
Madara probally wins, scince he not only posses the highest form of sharingan and the first hokages DNA which he stole. he can regrow limbs in a second also his genjutsu is so powerful that it can control the nine tails. he also knows how to counter all of pains moves cause of his vast knowledge of the ninja world.
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Post by Valdyr on Aug 4, 2011 11:07:34 GMT -5
Well, Idk about regrowing limbs. Im pretty sure he just grafted a new one on.
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